Okay. A little over a year since the last post.
I’m good at
keeping to that schedule.
So, I’ve
slowed down a bit with my Relictors lately.
The classics anyway. There was a
point that I had a beautiful, long-range plan of making the full Chapter, with
things get increasingly Chaos-esque as they moved higher and higher thought the
ranks. Six companies at the very (LINK)
least.
Of course,
then GW advanced the story a bit, the Relictors were declared heretics and
all-but-wiped out. So my plans were put
on hold. Partly for financial reasons,
yeah, but also because... well, I just wasn’t having much fun with 40K anymore.
Then... 8th
edition. And Primaris. And a quiet redemption for the Relictors. Which also gave me some justification for including them as my new Second Company. I spent a good four or five weeks, altogether,
building and painting up all of those.
And I have
a lot of unbuilt regular, non-Primaris Space Marines. Thirty or forty, easy. So... yeah, I’ve been thinking about a full Chapter
again. My dear friend Marcus keeps
creeping towards it with his Dark Angels.
However...
I find
myself more and more reluctant to piece these guys together. Definitely holding back on ordering more
parts for them—the odd special chest plate, a specific helmet or head. And any sort of vehicle... probably not in my
future.
Why?
I think
Space Marines are doomed. Not just the
Relictors. All of ‘em.
Allow me to
explain.
And please
remember, this is just me pulling thoughts out of my butt that could explain
recent design/ sales ideas while also explaining a few things in-story. The Watsonian and Doylist views of
tabletop gaming, if you will. I’m up for
hearing other thoughts, but if you just want to have a screaming argument,
there’s lots of other places on the interwebs for that. Go knock yourself out.
Anyway...
I mentioned
a while back on my other hobby blog that I got to sit in on a Titan
Comics panel about Warhammer 40,000, and they shared a few in-story aspects
about the Primaris that had come straight from Games Workshop. One of the key ones, I think, is that any
existing Space Marine can be become a Primaris.
Once they get the extra organs implanted, their bodies change and grow
and boom—a couple months later they’re even taller and wider.
I think
this is noteworthy for a couple of reasons.
I scribbled up a little thing for The Atomic Warlords a few weeks back
talking about how many Space Marine characters have effectively gone
missing. Pretty much all of them,
really. When was the last time you saw a
Tigerius figure in the wild? Or
Lysander? Shrike? The Emperor’s Champion? Pedro Kantor?
So, going
off the information in those last two paragraphs, what’s a likely thing we’ll
see in the future?
I wouldn’t
be at all surprised if there are Primaris versions of all these characters in
the works. GW needs to re-release them
somehow anyway, and this way justifies all new plastic models and a revised
Codex (with all the small tweaks that would be needed after a year or so of
eighth edition play). Plus, it wouldn’t
be hard to rationalize a little size difference so Primaris Marneus Calgar is
still wearing the only-slightly-retooled Armor of Atilochus and Gauntlets of
Ultramar. The Marines get to keep all
their relic-esque weapons and armor while still getting Primaris upgrades. Imagine a Primaris Lysander in gravis armor with
his hammer and shield, or Primaris Pedro Kantor with the Arrow of Dorn. Hell, I’d probably never play the army, but
I’d be tempted to buy a Primaris Gabriel Seth with Blood Reaver just because I
bet he’d look so friggin’ cool...
Of course,
once we’ve got all these command units... what’s the point of regular Marines
anymore, right? I mean, really, at this
point there hasn’t been a “classic” Space Marine release in... three
years? The Deathwatch, right? Dark Vengeance was back in 2012, and that
didn’t really bring a lot of useful stuff to the table. Even the current crop of codexes talk about
Primaris assimilating into the Space Wolves, the Dark Angels, and so on. Heck, we’ve been openly told this is a new
founding with new, 100% Primaris Chapters.
The whole Space Marine line could be quietly phased out and replaced with more Primaris options. More weapon choices. Bigger tanks and transports. Dreadnaught variations.
The whole Space Marine line could be quietly phased out and replaced with more Primaris options. More weapon choices. Bigger tanks and transports. Dreadnaught variations.
And at some
point...we’re just saying all Space Marines are Primaris now.
Really, I wouldn’t be shocked if in another two or three years regular Space Marines are pretty much gone. From shelves and rules.
Really, I wouldn’t be shocked if in another two or three years regular Space Marines are pretty much gone. From shelves and rules.
And if
you’re reading this thinking “hahahaaaa, they couldn’t do that with one of
their biggest lines...” have you seen
the new Kill Team Commanders book? All
Primaris. Heck, if you want precedent, look
at how many armies and units from Warhammer were swept off the table during the
shift to Age of Sigmar. Bretonnians,
Tomb Kings, the Empire, Dogs of War...
And it’s not just loyalist Marines, either. The most recent Chaos/Traitor/Heretic releases have been the Thousand Sons and Death Guard. They’re both notably larger than previous versions, and much more in scale with the Primaris Marines.
And it’s not just loyalist Marines, either. The most recent Chaos/Traitor/Heretic releases have been the Thousand Sons and Death Guard. They’re both notably larger than previous versions, and much more in scale with the Primaris Marines.
Plus, that
idea of Primaris gene seed being able to enhance classic Marines? There’s no stipulation that they have to be loyalist
Marines. The Alpha Legion intercepts a
certain convoy, the Iron Warriors lay siege to a certain Mechanicus storage
center, and look at this... suddenly we have Primaris Fabius Bile (another fig
in desperate need of a resculpt/re-release).
Who could be quickly followed by (speaking of desperately needing
a new model) Primaris Abaddon.
So now we
don’t just have new models—we’ve got an event to promote them. A crisis.
A huge shift across the galaxy. A
new box set game to sell!
Plus—if I
may be so bold—this would be a huge chance to finally differentiate Chaos
Marines from loyalists. All along, the
heretics have pretty much been “loyalists with horns” and most of the big differences have been about what the Chaos Marines don’t get. They have very few unique (or at least unique
and useful) units or wargear.
But if the
loyalists move on to this degree, it could mean a huge difference. Heretics could still have all their old armor
and heavy weapons and bolters while Loyalists go through a substantial shift in
their weapons and tactics. Chaos could
finally, truly have a “retro” Marine look... which would also give them an
in-story reason to up their own game and start making their own unique, Chaos-fuelled
weapons.
Anyway...
just some random thoughts.
Feel free
to toss agreements, counterpoints, or other forms of polite discourse below.
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